AMII new Lobby - Articles (last update 7/1/2019)

Articles about AM2 new lobby proposal 

========================================================= 7/1/2019
(Here is an email that was circulated last week)

Our new lobby, our new pit fall

The cat is out of the bag! We are being sold a lemon.

The Board of Directors of Aventura Marina Two Condominium Association, Inc. (“Association”) is asking for its members’ approval vote for the renovation of the lobby without giving all the detailed facts. The unit owners have not been provided with the final design drawings, final project costs, or timeline but the Board is asking us to approve the renovation although many unit owners still are not clear on what the renovations will entail.  The Board called a meeting to discuss the renovations at 1:00 p.m. on Monday, June 24, 2019, knowing that many unit owners would not be available to attend the meeting.

Notwithstanding that the final project costs appear to be unknown, the memorandum dated June 18, 2019, regarding “Owner Vote to Approve Lobby Renovation Project-Phase One Reconfigure Entry Areas and New Lobby/Concierge Areas” (“Memorandum”), alleges that the unit owners will not be liable for any assessments whatsoever as funds remain from the concrete restoration project. That statement is prefaced, however, with the phrase “the Board currently plans to pay for this entire Project” with the surplus restoration funds, which leaves the Board with an opening to assess unit owners. 

Additionally, it has been learned that no plans or other documents have been filed with the City of Aventura; and, as none have been presented to the unit owners, it seems there are none.  Consequently, it appears that the Board is attempting to have the Unit Owners approve an “unknown” renovation to ostensibly be funded by surplus funds earmarked for a different purpose.  You will note that the Written Consent for Phase One of Lobby Renovation Project enclosed with the Memorandum does not expressly include use of those funds.  THEREFORE, THE BOARD IS ATTEMPTING TO GET YOU TO TACITLY APPROVE THE USE OF THE SURPLUS FUNDS BY SIGNING THE WRITTEN CONSENT, OR THE BOARD IS TAKING THE POSITION THEY DO NOT NEED UNIT OWNER APPROVAL.  

It is also believed that the land upon which the renovations will take place is not currently a part of the condominium property and will have to be purchased and conveyed to the Association by the current owner, which is believed to be Aventura Marina Owners Association, Inc.  The unit owners have not been advised whatsoever about how the conveyance of the needed property will be conveyed or its cost.

Another issue to emphasize is the renovation effect on lobby side lower floors units. These units will have a major adverse impact by the renovation and their owners will experience a devaluation of their units.  All units on the lower level lobby side will lose natural light and the view of the beautiful landscaping that was recently planted. They will have a glass/metal/concrete structure in front of their units. In Mod A submitted with the Memorandum, the front of the package room glass blocks wall will be removed and replaced with a solid door. This will darken the interior of the lower units near the lobby.  Needless to say, the negatively affected unit owners could bring legal actions against the Association in the form of injunctions and civil lawsuits.  The cost of such legal actions could be ultimately be borne by the unit owners as well as any remedies directed by the court, i.e., the payment to unit owners for diminution in value, purchasing the affected units outright, etc.  These costs to the Association are unknown and could greatly exceed any surplus funds from the concrete restoration, which surplus amount by-the-way, was not a part of the Memorandum.

After solving the apparent obstacles an architect can be hired to render the new lobby with inputs from the Board (available budget) and the decorating committee (desired materials, color scheme, furniture, etc). When the architect’s drawings and designer interior plan are completed and published and all other facts and requirements are known, the unit owners will have a good idea how the renovated lobby will look, its cost and its timeline. It is then, and only then, that voting should take place.

This project must be accomplished the right way and it cannot be approved until all issues are resolved.  YOU ARE URGED TO NOT SIGN THE WRITTEN CONSENT.  IF YOU WISH TO SIGN IT, VOTE “NO”!

PLEASE NOTICE: THE LOBBY RENOVATION IS BEING PROMOTED AS A GRAND LOBBY, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY RECEIVING A HALLWAY TO ATTACH MOD A, B AND C. WE ALL WANT A GORGEOUS LOBBY BUT THIS IS THE WRONG DESIGN APPROACH!!!

=============================Version en español

¡El gato está fuera de la bolsa! Nos están vendiendo un limón.

La Junta de Directores de Aventura Marina Two Condominium Association, Inc. ("Asociación") está solicitando el voto de aprobación de sus miembros para la renovación del lobby sin proporcionar todos los datos detallados. Los propietarios de las unidades no han recibido los planos de diseño finales, los costos finales del proyecto ni el cronograma, pero la Junta nos solicita que aprueben la renovación, aunque muchos propietarios de unidades aún no tienen claro qué implicarán las renovaciones. La Junta convocó una reunión para discutir las renovaciones a la 1:00 p.m. el lunes 24 de junio de 2019, sabiendo que muchos propietarios de unidades no estarían disponibles para asistir a la reunión.
A pesar de que los costos finales del proyecto parecen ser desconocidos, el memorándum del 18 de junio de 2019, relativo a “Voto del propietario para aprobar el Proyecto de renovación del lobby-Fase uno reconfigura las áreas de entrada y las nuevas áreas de lobby / conserje” (“Memorando”), alega que los propietarios de las unidades no serán responsables de ninguna cuota extraordinaria de pago (assessment), ya que los fondos permanecen del proyecto de restauración concreto. Sin embargo, esa declaración está precedida por la frase "la Junta actualmente planea pagar por todo este Proyecto" con los fondos de restauración excedentes, lo que deja a la Junta con una apertura para fijar una cuota extraordinaria de pago (asesss)  a los propietarios de las unidades.

Además, se ha aprendido que no se han presentado planes u otros documentos a la Ciudad de Aventura; y, como ninguno ha sido presentado a los propietarios de la unidad, parece que no hay ninguno. En consecuencia, parece que la Junta está intentando que los Propietarios de la Unidad aprueben una renovación "desconocida" para ser financiada aparentemente por fondos excedentes destinados a un propósito diferente. Notará que el Consentimiento por Escrito para la Fase Uno del Proyecto de Renovación de Lobby adjunto al Memorándum no incluye expresamente el uso de esos fondos. POR LO TANTO, LA JUNTA ESTÁ INTENTANDO TRATAR QUE APRUEBE TACITAMENTE EL USO DE LOS FONDOS DE SURPLUS FIRMANDO EL CONSENTIMIENTO ESCRITO, O LA JUNTA ESTÁ TOMANDO LA POSICIÓN QUE NO NECESITA LA APROBACIÓN DEL PROPIETARIO DE LA UNIDAD.

También se cree que el terreno en el que se llevarán a cabo las renovaciones no es actualmente parte de la propiedad del condominio y deberá ser comprado y transmitido a la Asociación por el propietario actual, que se cree que es Aventura Marina Owners Association, Inc. Los propietarios de la unidad no han sido informados en absoluto sobre cómo se transmitirá la transferencia de la propiedad necesaria o su costo.

Otro tema a destacar es el efecto de renovación en las unidades de los pisos inferiores del lobby. Estas unidades tendrán un gran impacto adverso por la renovación y sus propietarios experimentarán una devaluación de sus unidades. Todas las unidades en el lado del vestíbulo del nivel inferior perderán luz natural y la vista de los hermosos paisajes que se plantaron recientemente. Tendrán una estructura de vidrio / metal / concreto frente a sus unidades. En la Mod A presentada con el Memorándum, la parte frontal de la pared de bloques de vidrio de la sala de empaques se quitará y se reemplazará con una puerta sólida. Esto oscurecerá el interior de las unidades inferiores cerca del vestíbulo.
No hace falta decir que los propietarios de las unidades afectadas negativamente podrían entablar acciones legales contra la Asociación en forma de interdictos y demandas civiles. El costo de tales acciones legales podría ser asumido en última instancia por los propietarios de la unidad, así como cualquier remedio dirigido por el tribunal, es decir, el pago a los propietarios de la unidad por la disminución de su valor, la compra directa de las unidades afectadas, etc. Estos costos para la Asociación se desconocen y podrían superar en gran medida cualquier excedente de fondos de la restauración concreta, cuyo monto de excedente no fue parte del Memorándum.

Después de resolver los obstáculos aparentes, se puede contratar a un arquitecto para que presente el nuevo lobby con los aportes de la Junta (presupuesto disponible) y el comité de decoración (materiales deseados, esquema de colores, muebles, etc.). Cuando se completen y publiquen los planos del arquitecto y el diseño interior del diseñador y se conozcan todos los demás datos y requisitos, los propietarios de la unidad tendrán una buena idea de cómo se verá el vestíbulo renovado, su costo y su cronograma. Es entonces, y solo entonces, que debe tener lugar la votación.

Este proyecto debe realizarse de la manera correcta y no puede ser aprobado hasta que se resuelvan todos los problemas. SE LE PIDE QUE NO FIRME EL CONSENTIMIENTO ESCRITO. SI DESEA FIRMARLO, VOTE "NO"!

POR FAVOR, AVISO: LA RECOMENDACIÓN DE LOBBY ESTÁ PROMOCIONADA COMO UN GRAN LOBBY, PERO ESTAMOS RECIBIENDO UN SALÓN PARA ADJUNTAR MOD A, B y C. ¡TODOS QUEREMOS UN LOBBY MAGNÍFICO PERO ESTO ES EL ENFOQUE DE UN DISEÑO MALO!



=========================================================
6/11/2019


The board and management held an open meeting for owners to convene with the decorating committee and the designer to review the future renovation of our lobby (that will cost a minimum $400,00.00) on 1:00 pm Tuesday afternoon?

Are there any logical reasons for the scheduled time? The majority of owners that reside in AM2 have a full time job during workdays. How could these owners attend a 1 p.m. meeting?  The board and management should have more consideration for owners, whose money they are spending, and hold all owners participated meetings in the evening.

Fortunately, a few owners attended this open meeting. The following is a summary highlights from the meeting:

 First, the $400,000.00 budget for the lobby renovation is a rough estimate only. We will not know the final cost until we receive the engineer report and all of the materials are selected for the job. This is not a typical way a complicated lobby renovation precedes. Usually, when a budget is presented to the owners, all materials including the engineer report are incorporated in a total price with design details are made available to owners.

We are all owners of an attractive building with beautiful views and stunning layouts. We should not skimp on materials for a new lobby. All our present lobbies have marble floors, that the standard in a fashionable building. If the budget is tight and there is not enough money available to design an elegant lobby with stunning and quality materials, we should defer the implementation of the lobby renovation.
Beware; the lobby renovation will impair front balconies views of some units. Currently, frontal balconies of lower level units near the lobby, view a landscape area. There will be an abrupt change for these units. Their view will either be the roof of the new addition, a concrete wall or a glass wall.

Another topic discussed at the meeting was the objectionably effect of move in/move out on lobby seating. A decision was made that no move in/move out will occur in the lobby area. The designer agreed to incorporate into the lobby renovation another door placed between new front entrance and Mod C for the purpose of move in/move out for Mod A and Mod B.

A topic not discussed is the impact of this lobby renovation on the security and safety in our building. Moving the concierge desk near the center door will move the concierge further away from the package room. While the concierge attends to packages, guests will be able to enter building and have access to the entire building including Mod C, while the concierge is busy.

Before the lobby renovation can be intelligently reviewed and voted on, all details including final cost must be made public. A final review to the owners should be scheduled to include final drawing showing the additional move in/move out door, samples of selected material, final engineer report and a more accurate cost and time schedule for completion.

As long as the above details are unknown be smart and vote “NO” 

=========================================================
5/8/2019

Dear Residents,

The new lobby renovation 3D depiction looks quite impressive.  However, are you prepared to have your guests sitting (Mod A lobby) waiting for you in the new space while a move is taken place with boxes and carts pushed right in front of guests?

When your guests enter through the new center entrance door, will you be happy to see your guests pass an uncovered area when its raining and be soaked?

Right now we live in a beautiful building, but these few dysfunctional changes could lower the value of our units.   Don’t be fooled!!!

Wake up and open your eyes before it is too late

Regards,

Investor
=========================================================
5/1/2019


Dear Bulletin representative,

I would appreciate if you would place this commentary on your blog and distribute my thoughts to AM2 owners.  I don’t understand how our board, manager and designer would even consider the proposed lobby renovation plan.

Visually this plan may look very appealing but it’s dysfunctional.  We all want a beautiful lobby but it needs to meet the needs of the owners.  Be prepared for future increases of costs, even though the board is saying no assessment now. We were given a rough estimate of the cost. Most likely there will be future additional assessments. This plan has many possible major costly issues that will need to be addressed.

A major issue is the emergency door for Mod A and B. According to the plan, we will have to use three sets of doors to exit during an emergency.  During an emergency, you will first use the existing emergency door to go from inside (Mod A and B) to the outside area where the garden will be. Then you will go back to the inside lobby area near the concierge desk. Finally you will exit to the outside using either the existing covered front entrance or the new uncovered front entrance. Can you imagine all the residents racing thru the lobby during an emergency? Another major issue is the red sprinkler system pipes near Mod C that according to state specification cannot be relocated.  I would be very concerned living in Mod C when the board is considering moving the sprinkler system pipes. The new lobby area will also require additional air conditioning. Also, keep in mind that most of the renovation will be glass.  It will require constant cleaning and hopefully meet hurricane code. It would have been useful if the board, manager and designer considered discussing the building needs with owners before submitting a renovation plan.

Before a board and manager of a condominium agree to spend our money on a lobby renovation they should consider their fiduciary duty and focus on needed and useful items that are not present in our present lobby.  The owners’ needs are not being met. A   new lobby should have plenty of storage for packages, enough seating for residents and guests, valet attendant’s room and rain coverage for guests when entering or exiting our building while it’s raining. At the present time a gap of roughly 16 feet roof coverage, so guests will definitely get wet when exiting car at valet.  Our valet area will be impacted and interfered with because the move in/out door is relocated from the existing emergency door to the existing Mod A/B front door. The new renovation plan will probably cause the valet service to relocate to the garage from the present front of our building. We need to keep a competitive edge with comparable buildings that have the spectacular views like us.

In my opinion, our lobby must be done the right way.
Our building can have the Wow factor and still have a functional lobby.


Regards,
A caring owner



=========================================================
4/2019

New Lobby - Overview



As a follow up from the AMll lobby renovation meeting, major functional flaws exist in this new lobby design. We’ll be spending over $300,000 for a non-functional lobby that doesn’t solve our current problems like a compressed small package room and valet service that has no quarter but outside in front of the lobby. The new design has major flaws like the move in/move out traffic flow, area and concierge desk.  If we are spending over $300K for a new lobby, all these items must be addressed to improve traffic flow and also present a lobby that is architectural beautiful (without the red sprinkler pipes sticking in the middle)

Below are all the functional flaws in this design plan for the lobby. The design plan shows 2 sofas with a coffee table for seating. However, movers will be pushing crating boxes in front of seating waiting guests. Do we want such a scene?   Right now move in/move out for Mod A and B use the emergency exit doors, not interfering with lobby traffic. 

A new center door will become the main entrance door for all, Mod A, Mod B, and Mod C. There will be a gap in the rain cover between the third floor walkway and the new main entrance; possibly soaking guests and residents when it’s raining. The concierge desk will be relocated near center door, and since main package room remains at same present location, security will be absent when concierge carry packages to/from package room (a long walk back and forth). Our security and safety of our building will be compromised even more. The possibility of using present center emergency door for moves still requires going through new front center door, obviously, not a realistic possibility. Another issue with the new lobby design is that it significantly hinders the valet service. Moves will interfere and obstruct the operation of the valet service. Maybe, requiring the relocation of valet stand farther away from the entrance.

A realistic approach for the lobby renovation is to seek several proposals from experienced and reputable designers. Let those designers provide their resumes, examples of past designs, and demonstrate their proposal in a board meeting.   After receipt of proposals, establish a large committee consisting of interested residents to review and consider the merits and flaws of each proposal. The committee will publish their recommendation to the board and will make a presentation to the community, recommending a lobby design and discus its merits and features. Once a design approach is agreed, a competitive bidding process can start

=================================================================3/2019


AM2 lobby design   (Spanish is on bottom of page)


In the last AM2 Board Meeting on 1/15/2019, a group of owners raised the topic of the proposed lobby design. It is important to mention that such an important issue to our building, that will effect the value of our units and burden our building’s budget and reserve, wasn’t considered important enough issue, to be even mentioned by the board to owners. If owners did not inquire about the lobby renovation, not a sole would have known that the board already signed a contract for the lobby renovation.



Please scrutinize carefully the lobby renovation plan because it will limit and prevent our building from becoming a luxurious, modern, expensive and state of the art condominium. This plan must be rejected as it will devalue our units’ value and its final cost is unknown and may lead to a huge future assessment.
Described below are some major problems that this design plan will cause:

Selecting a competent design company to undertake a complicated and complex project such as our lobby renovation requires the following verification and validation.
The designer company should be capable of taking responsibility of the whole project from the design stage until it is implemented and finished. The design company should be able to supply a detailed design plan, give prudent time line, and guarantee a total price for the entire project broken down by stages with a payment plan. The selected Design Company experience and past performance must be verified and references must be reviewed.

Unfortunately, our board took a different approach. They selected a design company that does only the design, gets paid for it and then recommends subcontractors for each remaining construction task to complete the project. Time line isn’t known and total expense isn’t known. The board will have to negotiate separately with each contractor for price, availability and schedule. No one entity takes collective responsibility for the entire project. This is a bad decision that will have bad consequences and unpredictable results. No sensible board will choose such approach.

Here are additional points, to think about the new lobby renovation design:

The existing main entrance in MOD A will become a service door. It means that now, the move in and move out will be thru what was the front entrance door. Guests and owners will have to pass by cardboard boxes and movers as they enter the new entry doors.  As you drive into the community and come close to AMll, instead of seeing guest/residents walking thru the old front doors, you’ll see new move in/move out for the Mod A and Mod B buildings. This lobby design makes absolutely no sense and will devalue our luxury condominium.

The move in and move out will impede the valet service requiring relocating from current position.  As residents or guests drive toward AMll to valet car, a move will interfere. Cars will be backed up causing chaos at the front entrance not pleasant scene for a luxurious condominium. Our building is a luxury condominium with custom features, many amenities and stunning sweeping views of the Florida Riviera.

The lobby renovation plan specifies a roof enclosure connecting Mod A, B and C. It will be very costly since it must be built very strict state hurricane standards. It will enclose the windows of the ground floor units (owners must agree to that), AM1 has to agree to render the ground from AMO ownership to AM2. Permits from city fire department etc must be obtained, priced and clarified before any penny is spend on renovation.

The concierge desk that is presently near the front entrance to Mod A will be relocated near the walls of Mod C and Mod B (the concierge desk will be placed between the present service door and Mod C’s staircase). Arriving guests will see a concierge desk to the right and behind the desk they will see two apartment bedroom windows and the valet cart door. Typically, a beautiful piece of art is placed behind a front desk on wall.

In Conclusion:
A competent designer would not conceive a plan like this. This plan will be costly and only devalue our building. Please become involved, a STOP must be put to this plan before any additional money is spent.


Diagram of the new proposal: 



Spanish


En la última reunión de la comisión directiva de AM2, realizada el 15/01/2019, un grupo de propietarios planteo la consideración del tema del diseño del Lobby.
Es importante mencionar, que un tema tan importante como este, que tiene importancia cardinal para el valor de nuestros departamentos, así como para los presupuestos y el fondo de reservas, no fue considerado como un tema suficientemente importante por la comisión de propietarios, y de no haber sido por una pregunta, no nos hubiéramos enterado de que la comisión, de hecho, ya había firmado un contrato para la renovación del Lobby.

Por favor, examine cuidadosamente los planes de renovación del Lobby (vestíbulo) ya que podría limitar e incluso prevenir que nuestro edificio se convierta en un edificio lujoso, moderno, de última generación.
Este plan o proyecto debe ser rechazado, ya que va a devaluar el costo de nuestras unidades de vivienda, su costo final es desconocido, y puede involucrar grandes gastos en el futuro.
A continuación, vamos a mencionar algunos problemas que este diseño puede causar:

Seleccionar una empresa de diseño que sea competente para poder llevar a cabo un proyecto complejo y complicado como el de la renovación de nuestro Lobby, requiere la siguiente verificación y validación:
La empresa de diseño debe ser capaz de tomar la responsabilidad en conjunto de todo el proyecto, desde la etapa en que comienza, hasta su complementación.
Deberá poder proporcionar un detallado plan de diseño, dar una idea de los tiempos para completar la obra, y garantizar el precio total del proyecto, así como un plan de pagos.
La empresa seleccionada deberá tener experiencia y sus referencias deberán ser adecuadamente revisadas y confirmadas.

Desgraciadamente, nuestra comisión directiva, tiene otro enfoque diferente de la situación.
Seleccionaron a una empresa que solo hace el diseño, recibe el pago por lo hecho, y recién a partir de ahí, recomienda subcontratistas, para cada uno de los distintos temas de la construcción, para finalizar el proyecto.
Los tiempos para completar los trabajos y el coste total son desconocidos.
La comisión tiene que negociar de forma separada con cada uno de los subcontratistas, los precios, la disponibilidad de dicho subcontratista, y las tablas de tiempos en la de deberá hacer la obra. Esto trae como consecuencia, que no hay una entidad que pueda asumir la responsabilidad colectiva de toda la obra.
Esta es una mala decisión que pude tener consecuencias nada buenas, e incluso acarrear resultados impredecibles.
Ninguna Comisión Directiva seria y sensata elegiría este enfoque.
A la vez, hay otros puntos adicionales para considerar con respecto al diseño de la renovación del Lobby:
La principal entrada del MOD A, se convertirá en una “puerta de servicio”.
Esto significa que, de acuerdo con el nuevo plan, las entradas y salidas serán a través de lo que fue la entrada principal. Visitas y propietarios tendrán que atravesar zonas con cajas y aparatos para mover mercancías, hasta atravesar las nuevas puertas de entrada.
Cuando Ud. este manejando y aproximándose a AMII, en lugar de ver visitas y/o residentes caminando frente a las viejas entradas, vera gente y elementos logísticos entrando y saliendo de las puertas de entrada de los edificios de los MOD A y Mod B.
Este diseño propuesto no tiene ningún sentido y solo lograra devaluar el alto estándar de nuestro condominio.
Lógicamente debido al entrar y salir de los residentes o invitados, al aproximarse con vehículos, requerirá una reubicación de los servicios de valet.
La posible acumulación de vehículos producirá un embotellamiento, frente a la entrada principal, panorama no muy agradable para lo que debería ser un condominio de lujo.

Debemos recordar que nuestros edificios son parte de un condominio de lujo, con características especiales, con diversas amenidades y vistas espectaculares de la Rivera de la Florida.

El plan de renovación del Lobby incluye cerrar el techo de los puentes desde los MOD A, B y C.
Este es algo excesivamente costoso, ya que debe cumplir con los requerimientos de las muy estrictas normas contra huracanes que están en vigencia.
Quedaran parcial o totalmente cubiertas las ventanas de las unidades de vivienda que están en la planta baja (para ello los propietarios tendrán que dar su consentimiento), AMI tiene que estar de acuerdo en transferir tierras de AMO al AMII. Los permisos del Departamento de Bomberos, y otros, deben ser obtenidos, clarificando sus costos, etc. antes que un cent es gastado en los proyectos de renovación.
El mostrador de la conserjería, que actualmente se encuentra cerca de la entrada principal (MOD A), va a ser reubicado cerca de las paredes al fondo, del MOD C y del MOD B (el mostrador de la conserjería será ubicado entre la presente puerta de servicio y la escalera del MOD C).
Las visitas o propietarios que arriben verán el mostrador del conserje a la derecha y por detrás, dos ventanas de las habitaciones de un departamento y la puerta del cuarto dende el valet guardo los carritos de las valijas.
Todo esto, cuando lo que se estila, es ver una bella pieza de arte sobre la pared detrás del conserje.
En Conclusión:
Un diseñador competente nunca hubiera concebido un plan como este.
Este plan será altamente costoso, y logrará solo devaluar nuestra propiedad.


Por favor, llamamos a todos a involucrarse y tomar parte en contra de este plan, el cual debe ser Detenido antes que haya otros gastos inadecuados.